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Shepard Book
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Posted - 2011.05.13 18:36:00 -
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They should get the cov op cloak and a buff to fitting, and either gank or tank
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Shepard Book
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Posted - 2011.05.16 14:08:00 -
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 Originally by: Sarina Rhoda
Originally by: Shepard Book
They should get the cov op cloak and a buff to fitting, and either gank or tank
Covert-ops cloaking device will do little - nothing in the way of balancing them.
They said the same thing about the bomber and cov op cloak for years and it was never truley fixed till they added it with a couple other perks. I would rather them get it right the first time. I also said add gank or tank not both. This would stop them from being in the front line IMO. Thanks for the reply. I like you range and fuel bay ideas.
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Shepard Book
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Posted - 2011.05.16 15:53:00 -
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Edited by: Shepard Book on 16/05/2011 15:53:59
Originally by: Sarina Rhoda
Originally by: Shepard Book
They said the same thing about the bomber and cov op
I don't see how you can compare bombers to B'ops they are completly different :S
Main point being bombers don't have a jump drive...
They are both designed in a stealth type role but did not have cov op cloaks. BOs are made to work hand in hand with cov op cloak type ships.
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Shepard Book
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Posted - 2011.05.16 16:07:00 -
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Originally by: Carcusian
A covert cloak would be too much for a BO. I say this as a Sin, Panther, Widow pilot. Not supported.
They are in dire need of some HP/resist adjustment, and if they get that then a covops cloak would be even more imbalanced.
They are still one of the most expensive ships before capitals and least used. If we got the cloak and a buff to either tank or gank not both it would still not be over powered. They could still be countered and destroyed.
There are so few options for smaller fleets to accomplish anything in this game. I think this would be a move in the right direction for what they say they want to do with 0.0.
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Shepard Book
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Posted - 2011.05.16 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: Marlona Sky
Put a covert ops cloak and a Black Ops, and it will become the standard ship to fly by all pirates in low sec. Hell, even small scale PvP in null sec and high sec wars.
They would still be foolish to go toe go toe a vs a well organized roam even less VS a hellcat, drake, or bs fleet IMO. We are still talking about a lot of isk here.
This could be a nice new niche if CCP truey wants to open up small scale warefare and objectives for such fleets in 0.0 I am thinking long term if they add new objectives in 0.0. LOW sec Id still take a fleet BS over a BO w/ cloak and a buff to either tank or gank. Costs much less and more effective IMO.
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Shepard Book
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Posted - 2011.05.16 19:55:00 -
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Edited by: Shepard Book on 16/05/2011 19:57:09
Originally by: Marlona Sky
Originally by: Shepard Book
Originally by: Marlona Sky
Put a covert ops cloak and a Black Ops, and it will become the standard ship to fly by all pirates in low sec. Hell, even small scale PvP in null sec and high sec wars.
They would still be foolish to go toe go toe a vs a well organized roam even less VS a hellcat, drake, or bs fleet IMO. We are still talking about a lot of isk here.
This could be a nice new niche if CCP truey wants to open up small scale warefare and objectives for such fleets in 0.0 I am thinking long term if they add new objectives in 0.0. LOW sec Id still take a fleet BS over a BO w/ cloak and a buff to either tank or gank. Costs much less and more effective IMO.
LOL! Like they would go toe-to-toe with a Hellcat fleet. They would just stay cloaked and warp the **** off.
Put a covert cloak on it and everyone would train for one and fly nothing else. You say the cost is high now, but when the demand goes through the roof, all inventors will be making these and due to the price competition, they will drop in price. Sounds good but when it is nothing but Marco-Polo between black ops everywhere...
I hope you get the picture. If not, then there is not much else I can say to get you to stop seeing in tunnel vision. 
Not everyone trains recons now so you saying all would train that is a weak counter IMO. DPS of BOs is camparable if not less than a well trained bomber in most cases. Bombers cost a lot less and will be traveling with them. I still see BOs being more expensive than tier two BS by a long shot. BOs playing marco polo is far fetched when BS that cost much less can kill them. People already play marco polo BTW so this won change anything. Just because someone does not agree with you does not mean they have tunnel vission. If it did I could say the same of you. I made the points I wanted to already.
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